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awarded a touchdown to the seahawks in the final play on sunday night, both obama and walker tweeting for the lockout to end, and the new jersey senate president says he's going to introduce legislation because of course that's what you do against replacement refs altogether. peter barnes joins me now, i hear there's an end in sight. >> reporter: yeah, possibly. the leader of the nfl referees' association says it looks -- let me get it right -- it sure looks good for a deal with nfl owners, telling "usa today" this afternoon that negotiators have narrowed their differences and both sides are committed to getting it done but that there's no deal right now. now, the nfl declined to comment on an espn report that the owners and refs are close to an agreement in principle and that they're close enough that they have discussed refs returning to the field this sunday. the lockout is becoming a political football for real. president obama tweeting that nfl fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs' longout is settled -- lockout is settled soon. republican governor of scott walker, as you
million more are on food stamps. president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good paying job. my plan will create twelve million new jobs over the next four years helping lift families out of poverty and strengthening the middle-class. i'm mitt romney and i approve this message because we can't afford another four years like the last four years. ♪ >>> this comes to us from the discovery channel. it shows what happens when you crash a jet liner on purpose. you see the pilot bailing out before it hits the ground. it's part of a special that airs sunday on the discovery channel. >>> welcome back to "cbs this morning." there's rising anger in southern california over border patrol agent who shot and killed a mother of five on friday. >> officials say the agent was trying to save his own life. police in california will still investigating, as bill w
. obama's skin again and again and again. it looked like to some degree there in south carolina both hillary clinton and bill clinton were sort of -- were sort of going after him at the same time, trying to fluster him when he got to this debate. he never went there. and i think that's telling for this debate upcoming. all these attempts to try to fluster him, you know, do you remember suzanne, the talk about ronald reagan in that debate? >> right. >> do you recall that? >> that's right. >> all this talk about ronald reagan and whether obama had sort of invoked the name of ronald reagan because so many democrats didn't like him or whatever. well senator obama then took the punches, explained what he said about reagan and took it back to her, keeping the anger under control, finding balance and pushing back hard just not too hard. >> it was interesting too as well you could ask the most dry mundane question, dealing with the economy. they would go back to the talking points in the attacks. it was clear they were trying to score points. fireworks. a "game change"er if you will. i want
to protect you, and you is the player. president obama tweeted nfl fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs lock out ends soon. >> give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. and do you know what it remamin me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right it is time to get out. >> the nfl does not want to support a pension and it wants to increase competition among the referees to perform better. these are classic labor issues in 2012. >> let's get to tonight's very special guest here now is hall-of-fame quarterback fran tarkenton. he took his team to the 73, 74 and 76 super bowls but you also played for the new york giants. i'm a fan. wonderful to see you fran, we know what the problem is, in your judgement, what is the solution? >> it is a terrible problem. they made a terrible mistake but they blew two pass interference calls against green bay that never should have happened. they should have changed the play. we play 16 games in a year. you play 162 baseball games. a loss is a devastating thing. the nfl messed up in betting and getting the right referees.
this opportunity to ask both romney and obama to debate me because i think that both of those guys -- i think that the american people are being given a false choice, because the choice between the lesser of two evils is a false choice. it's not an actual choice. i think that peace and freedom and solutions, economic solutions, that -- that involve investment in our own country first are the things that i offer and that i want to talk about. so i think, yes, i'm very, very serious. and, you know, i would like people to incorporate these ideas in this election cycle, such as -- >> sean: you're running as a socialist? >> well, i'm running on the peace and freedom party, and part of -- i do think we do need more socialism in this country this time. we need to move stuff from the top to the middle and the bottom, because it keeps on staying at the top. how you build a middle class is bring stuff from the top down to the middle. and people deserve something back for the tax they pay. >> sean: all right. so, for example, we now have a tax system. these are just facts. 10% pays almost 70% of the fed
of opinions about both men and help undecided voters make up their minds. >> gregg: obama campaign suggests that romney wins the debate by appearing on the stage. is that true? >> there is some truth to that. they are belittling romney by that comment saying that barack obama is the incumbent chief executive. but by standing on the stage, mitt romney will have an opportunity to have his ideas and presentation compared first time, no reporters telling people how it can be interpreted or no analysts or pundits telling them how it should be interpreted. it will give an opportunity for mitt romney, he hopes, romney hopes to call out the president on some of the deceptions of his positions. mitt romney has argued that he does not support abortion with the exception of rape and incest and life of the mother. barack obama campaign has suggested romney shares paul ryan's view that doesn't have exception. he says the auto bailout, so that is romney is looking for and in case of president obama. what he with a really wants to do is make sure this doesn't become a discussion in the last three and a ha
. >> back to our top story about lawmakers from both sides of the aisle. demanding answers from the obama administration on the terrorist attack in benghazi, libya. that claimed four american lives. with election day, roughly five weeks away, the question is whether the situation in libya and the accusations of a cover-up by the administration is what we now know is a terror attack, mounted this election season's october surprise. the term was coined in 1980 when some believe that jimmy carter was planning a last minute gear to secure the release of american hostages in iran. saying that they refused to free the hostages until after the presidential elections. in october 30 headline reading hostage debate postponed. in the end, the hostages were freed within minutes of ronald reagan's inauguration. in 1992 when an independent counsel announced the indictment questioning president george w. bush's role. he wound up losing that election to president clinton. eight years later, his son faces own october surprise. d been arrestede election day, for drunk driving decades earlier. despite the h
in afghanistan rather than a good tactic by the taliban fanatics. >> well, it's both. the taliban have wisely used all the poor man's nukes, as it were, ied's, suicide bombers, and these green on blue assassinations. you know, you played a clip in the intro, bill n which obama said that in his election campaign in 2008, he promised he'd wind down the war in afghanistan. that was another lie. his election campaign, he said bush took his eye off the ball. he was going to fix afghanistan. he went with the surge, which was exactly the wrong approach to a tribal society. you want a small foot print, not a large one. we alienated afghans. we poured in unguided aid missiles, which corrupted everything in sight. we turned a nation of pick pockets into a nation of al capones and now obama is taking down for winding down his surge. this is grotesque -- >> bill: you both agree that the afghan thing has gone south. it's not the way -- look, iraq, whether you like the war or not, we got out of there with dignity and we gave that country a fighting chance to be a decent country. all right? i think we all a
candidate mitt romney and president obama will both address attendees at the clinton global initiative today. the meeting begins sunday with leaders in business and philanthropy. and secretary of state hillary clinton spoke monday. this year's meeting addressed poverty, health and the apartment. we will bring in mitt romney's remarks live at nine eastern here on c-span2. than president obama's address to the clinton global initiative at noon eastern on c-span. >> new york representative bob turner and former new york city mayor ed koch last week talked about the jewish vote in the upcoming november presidential election. former mayor koch has been a vocal critic of president obama's policy toward israel. he still supports the president. but also discuss the wars in iraq and afghanistan and u.s. relations with the middle east. from fordham university law school in new york, this is about an hour and a half. >> we are here again once again in connection with this conference dedicated to examining the 2012 presidential election, and the way it may be being shaped by the memory of the holocaust
have agreement. both of us think it was wrong for president obama to snubbed the prime minister of israel. >> i do not know what his schedule is. you characterized -- rhetoric about snubbing, been weak, i do not know what the situation was for the president's office, his schedule, what the israeli prime minister's schedule was. if it is possible, you should always meet with foreign heads of government you so what scheduling conference the think would be sufficient? he declined requests from the prime minister to meet when the prime minister was in new york. my understanding is that during that same week he went on david letterman and "the view." >> at the same time? you are using that as an excuse? >> we do not even know. you do not even know. the slander our president and not the -- even know his schedule. >> i am describing his conduct. >> i do not know david letterman's personal schedule or the president's, but we have come to the bottom of a half- hour. much more in the next 30 minutes. >> thank you. a spirited, sometimes fiery debate between our two than senate candidates.
speaking with students and looking at how both president obama and mitt romney have their plans to help the middle class pay for college work. here's her report. >> reporter: when jackie graduated from brown university this year, she put off going straight to medical school. instead, she took a research job at sloan kettering hospital. >> it is nice to have a paying job where i can pay back part of my student loans before going to med school and possibly adding on a lot more. >> reporter: and she had plenty of them, $100,000 worth. why? her family is middle class. her mother works in a school, her dad owns a bar. she says they're considered too wealthy to qualify for many grants but not wealthy enough to have saved the money for the more than $50,000 a year to attend brown. >> you're in the middle class, you are normal suburban family but you don't make an outrageous amount of money, so you can't pay these outrageous prices for tuition. >> reporter: she's not alone. student loan debt hit $1 trillion last year. even tuition for public four-year colleges rose 68% over the last decade. ent
and the battle for the buckeye state. president obama, mitt romney both campaigning there today. look at the poll from cbs and the "new york times." >> showing in ohio now the president has a 10-point lead over mitt romney among likely voters. 53% to 45%. that number's going to jump off the screen for a lot of people in this country. ohio, 18 electoral votes, seventh highest in the nation and again no republican has ever won the white house without winning that number. >> how many times have we said that? >> say it every time. >> jim acosta has that stitched into his t-shirts. hi, jim. traveling with mitt romney from ohio. >> reporter: that's how that. good morning. i think mitt romney has also heard that once or twice. thanks to john berman for bringing that up again. rolling up on a mitt romney event getting started in a few moments in westerville, ohio, outside of columbus. mitt romney goes then up to the northern part of the state, hit the cleveland area and toledo later on this evening. we tried to talk to mitt romney about the struggles he's having here in ohio before the poll came out this
for president obama and mitt romney. an awful lot of scene setting going on on both sides. here is a little bit from the obama camp. >> the president is not satisfied. we have come a long way from when we were losing 800,000 jobs a month in january when took office. we now created five million private sector jobs. >> and they say that things are getting better but the president recognizes they are not as much and as well as things as the voters with like to have. as for the romney campaign they have been working on one liners and zingers but also recognize that this is a three presidential debate and four overall debates with one vice presidential matchup coming forward. they are looking at sort of spreading this over the course of october and hope they will be able to turn around the polls. they argue the polls are skewed towards democrats and closer than everybody thinks but recognize it is up to the debates to turn things around for mr. romney in the final five and a half weeks before the campaign, shannon. >> shannon: i will be watching. thank you. >>> they biked from california to new jers
for wednesday in denver. ohio republican senator rob portman playing the role of president obama. mitt romney attended church with his family earlier today. meanwhile, the president will be hold agriculturally this evening in las vegas, nevada, with three days until the first debate between president obama and mitt romney, both campaigns are kicking the expectations game into high gear. here's david plouffe on "meet the press" this morning. >> we have expected all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and he's shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> joining me now, ann murray, a romney campaign surrogate, former communications director for governor tim pawlenty's presidential campaign. anne marie, good afternoon to you. so now governor romney at his campaign headquarters today for some debate prep. we understand that that debate prep has turned into a full-scale dress rehearsal this afternoon. tomorrow he's on the campaign trail. is he ready for wednesday night? >> i think, i think so. i think it's going to be a gr
update. >> obama campaign thinks pennsylvania is in their pocket and they don't need to worry about it. we are going to take the white house. thank you. >> with the first presidential debate, both sides are downplaying expectations. romney notes in 2008 against mccain, mr. obama won each debate by double digits accor according to gallup polling and won by by 33 points. the president's team expected romney to be well prepared, playing up advantages for romney. debate and the first debate, favor challengers. >> senior romney a visor offered the g.o.p. debate spin in a memo to reporters -- regardless of who comes out on the top in the debate we amount afford another four years on the last four years. >> make a decision on what they believe is in the best interest of the country and their family. i expect to describe it in a way people understand. if i do, i get elected. >> romney spends the weekend in boston and flies to denver on monday. he has no public campaign activities planned. it's all private for the face-off. important of how important romney thinks it will be. >> bret: okay. see
to see mitt romney square off with president obama and visions for the country. we are starting to see both campaigns to lower expectations for both candidates but this is last chance that romney have to voters take him seriously. >> gregg: i think the trick is for romney at least to come across as krebld and trust worthy and to have the better plan for the economy, that seems to be pretty clear. i wanted to point your attention to a recent bloomberg poll. one in five voters are persuadable and more of them actually tilt republican and lean in romney's direction. 41% says he has laid out a better economic vision compared to 25% saying the president has. are those folks, erin, really what both of candidates are aiming for here. they got to get some of that 20%? >> there is no question about that. how we know that is the other day president obama was campaigning down in virginia. he made that very remark. he was saying i know i have supporters out there in the audience but i wanted to talk to some of the folks who are watching on tv who may not be my supporters. mitt romney in some of hi
? >>guest: it could cut both ways. they could be spurred into action, they do not like president obama. they could be spurred to action in the campaign to work harder. >>imus: whose backers are more rabid, more jazzed? that is kind of, you know, ethereal. >>guest: a lot of republicans think, wait, this is the time after "hope and change" where a lot of liberals are disappointed in the president. two years after the tea party spurred a big takeover of congress, as well. i think, personally, that the republicans are more injuriesed than -- energized than the democrats in a time the economy did not turn around and president obama did not do things the supporters hoped for. >>neil: always good to talk to you. a fellow that probably shares the action act view, bob beckel, star of "the view." you agree this boomerangs on the president? >>guest: i don't agree at all. a nice fellow but let me stick to the poll if i could. first all, it could cut both ways. you could say, the romney people say if we are that far behind, why bother? it is better not to have your bases for the be there because of
to level such a criticism of the -- president obama. he has been a strong leader in protecting this country, as president bush was, and both presidents since 9/11 have put the security of the american people and homeland security as job number one, as they should. they are both strong in that area, and it is unfair to suggest that president obama has let down our guard. the events in libya were tragic. the responsibility for guarding our embassies and consulates overseas -- we don't have american military protecting our embassies. it is the host country that provides perimeter security rapping out diplomatic establishments. we provide security for foreign embassies in washington, d.c. and consulates in new york city to it could lead us down? in cairo, it was the egyptian government that did not have enough security around pmc, and that is why the crowds went over the walls and a trip down the american flag and burned it and put up the black flag of resistance. in libya, it was the libyan security forces that led us down in been gauzy when ambassador stevens was killed. i don't think it is a
to not listen to it. you have to look at the fundamentals which are this is going to be a close election. obama has an advantage but at the end of the day the country is pretty evenly divided. >> folks on both sides of the aisle have talked about some of the challenges obama will have in the debates. hugh hewitt has a piece out in which he talks about one of obama's debate tales which is feigned outrage that someone would dare to interrupt him. he says when this happens, his coun ten nance displays a disapprovinger. >> and voice clouds with displeasure, it is practiced and profoundly anti-democratic and arrogant. if he plays this card on this stage it will backfire. if kerry is filling in for romney against this debate, you know, against obama in debate prep, is he preparing him for more than just substance? is he also preparing him for these stylistic what-ifs? these moments where obama could be pulled in one direction or the other and trying to sort of hedge against that? >> well, i think the biggest disadvantage obama has right now is practice. mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went thr
the states are following them. it wasn't just hispanics. it was socially liberal white women and obama today, 56 of 58%. >> i will just say abortion is a height tension issue on both sides of the debate. important to keep in mind. >> things like planned parenthood. planned parenthood which every republican presidential nominee in bourse -- endorsed. i agree. abortion is what it is. you do have this divide, but i think other elements came in in a way that had not previously and all this is allowing obama told his vote among those women. >> you don't actually have soft dollar donations going to the party. you have democrats as republicans did in the 70's him of posting the first wave of regulation have to rely more on upper-middle-class donors. that shapes the issue about the campaign. >> immigration is not an issue that is the core base republican conservative issue. there is a sizable but minority group within the party who cares very deeply about it. why has it become a position of the party now when, in fact a mother is such a huge and growing voter block from it is an important issue. >>
to break down the details. plus, on the eve of the first presidential debate both president obama and governor mitt romney are hard at work on their final preps. we'll have an update from the campaign trail next. gregg: there are plans to hold peace talk with the taliban and they've now collapsed, this as nato commander's try to find a new way to boost stability in the region as forces begin to head home. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the details from the pentagon. how seriously did the u.s. military take these peace talks with the taliban. >> not very. this was essentially a state-department-led idea from with some backing from the white house and the president's national security advisers over at the white house when richard holbrooke was still alive as ambassador and envoy to pakistan he backed the idea because many military commander's believed you could not shoot yourself out of this war, out of the war in afghanistan. the pentagon also never believed that they could negotiate he with elements loyal to mullah omar or the a cane the aquani network. the p
. but if you ask people on the street, they have a very different reading of the feelings of obama to israel. >> i had taken the position up until recently that israel should not be an issue in the race because the parties are both supportive of israel. it should relate to the domestic issues where there is clear cleavage between the two. that has been my position. that anyone can rightly say that president obama is the best president. i think reagan was. i think second bush was. ut he's acceptable in my judgment. i hope to change him. i talk to people, they know my views. i am not reluctant. i tell them exactly what i think. and i have never believed in the conversations because they always appeared interesting. maybe i am just somebody else, but they will appear. we occasionally make errors. i am not bad at this stuff. i have made very clear where i am. there is further support of israel, there was a magnificent speech at the un in support of israel. he kept the palestinian authority from getting independent states opposed by the un. he has done wonderful things and i give him the credit f
. the tensions between mr. obama and the gulf states both diplomats say from a character trait. he has not built many personal relationships with foreign leaders. quote, he is not good with personal relationships. that's not what interests him, said one united states diplomat but in the middle those relationships are essential. it deprives d.c. the inability for leadership decisions. that is at the core, i think, of a lot of what we have been talking about. >> we have been hearing, jon meacham, the president will go to a country and give a speech and then leave. i've heard from one diplomat after another he thinks the speech its itself is the means of an end and the opposite of what george w. bush did throughout his entire -- >> i'm not sure what your criticism is. >> my criticism he hasn't done a job that a commander in chief needs to do. >> he is weak on foreign policy? >> mika, i didn't say that. if you're trying to jump in to defend a defenseless president, get it right. i'm talking about what "the new york times" is writing. he doesn't build personal relationship and hurt us in washington a
obama? >> well, i think one of the things that i think both of them shared was just bringing in a whole new generation to the democratic process. i think that's really a significant accomplishment and legacy. we don't even know what all the people that barack obama inspired are going to contribute. >> are you ever overwhelmed by your legacy? when people think of kennedy, they think of camelot they think of your mom, they think of your dad, they think of your brother. now, of course, we have you. >> what do you mean now, of course, we have you. >> you know what i mean, caroline. we have you. are you over whelmed by a legacy of that or do you just think it isn't fair? >> i'm really proud of my family. i can't imagine having better parents and a more wonderful brother. i feel really fortunate that those are my family. i wish they were here. >> of course. >> my own family, my children, my husband are really my real family, and so we don't really think of -- >> you don't really think of we're kennedys? >> no. >> we're just us? >> right. >> 50 years later the kennedy family is still very much
. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney meet in their first debate. both candidates on screen on c- span. on c-span2, the multi camera version of the debate. follow our live coverage on c- span, c-span radio, and online at c-span.org. host: joining us now is gary johnson, former governor of mexico. he is the libertarian nominee. look at the major party candidates. what is missing in the debate and what do you bring to the table? guest: how about the truth, for starters. the notion that obama and mitt romney are arguing over who will spend more on medicare. if we do not divided by medicare spending, i think we will find ourselves in the midst of a monetary collapse. host: what are you saying on that issue/ what is your prescription? guest: i oversaw the reform of medicaid when i was governor of new mexico. we saved hundreds of millions of dollars. the government blocked -- done away with the strings and the manas, i could have overseen the delivery of health care to the poor. health care for those over 65. get the federal government out of health care completely. that is how we're going t
to thwart statehood. that is something obama has not received enough credit for. within a year, we have both a jewish congresspersons, one saying opposite things. your party would do better in the white house for israel. >> i certainly believe so. it is a very critical period. small things can mean an awful lot when the president has not minister, has made outrageous claims. these have consequences. heri think some of the arab states right now -- these are big blunders. >> you mean the boldest of the arab states? >> that daylight between israel and the united states. this is an administration of a great deal of rhetoric. let's look to the actions. >> that is an interesting point, congressman. there are people that say, it doesn't matter if there are nice photo ops. but does it matter what president obama is eating in jerusalem? >> it does matter. >> would you measure military support with the diplomatic aid? he may not love is real. >> i am not asking obama if he in the best interests of the united states to support that relationship that every president has done. does he believe in order to
. please feel free to call us. >> good morning everyone. both candidates are gearing up for the first presidential debate. president obama will stay in nevada for the next few days to wrap up final preparations. he campaigned in las vegas last night to a group of 11,000 supporters and in an effort to manage his expectations said he's just an okay debater. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you will. >> i don't know about that. president romney is a good debater. >> that is in response to reports that romney is prepping and plans on taking jabs at the president. obama spokeswoman is saying don't expect the president to fire any blows and he looks forward to continuing his conversation with the american people. the president is traveling with a prep team, david axelrod anita dunn and senator john kerry. kerry is playing romney during the mock debates with the president. the team is hunkering down to get the president ready. romney is campaigning in denver today with a stop with the wings over the rockies museum. paul ryan is
to determine what kind of america they want to live in. a mitt romney america or a barak obama america. >> gretchen: so no doubt that the two teams who are preparing both of these candidates are saying a lot of time figuring out, what are the negatives about the other guy or how do you get under the skin of the other guy to make it to your advantage with the american people? so last night charles krauthammer on "special report" had his theory about how mitt romney might be able to get under the skin of president obama. >> i the his one weak point is that he is thin skinned. you occasionally will see it in a press conference and if romney can manage to get under his skin in some way, i think that actually happened in 08 one or two of the clinton debates, i think it could sort of puncture that aura that obama has. one thing that's going to help romney is that simply being on the stage is always true of the challenger. just being on the same stage as the president, instantly raises your stature. >> gretchen: that's interesting. the other interesting thing is if off chance, check out the "
democrat, tim kane. both are former governors. there is a large military and reservists vote in virginia. that vote is sponsoring decidedly against president obama because he is definitely against the military, cutting what ought to be a 313 ship navy below 200 navy ships. cutting 20,000 marines and 8,000 army and another 20,000 sailors and airmen from the rolls. he has canceled the f-22 and numerous other weapon systems. he is messing around with military pay, benefits, retirement, and that should put mitt romney over the top in virginia, but it is a close state because of the facts. the least recession impacted state in the union is virginia. the reason the viejo is the least impact of state is because the only industry that has been a growth industry in the last four years is the government. there is no recession in washington d.c. i go there quite frequently. there are cranes all over the city. the place is awash in money. the employment numbers are significantly better than the rest of the country because we spend and spend and spend other states money. washington d.c., and that has
of these votes, medicare but the debt number is sticking in, under president obama $35.6 trillion increase in three years of his presidency compared to president bush's nearly 5 years over eight years. >> dave: both are bad but in retrospect. >> alisyn: do you think it's possible the day after election, we can start to look forward? we can stop looking backwards and we can look forward. that is my platform. >> do politicians ever do that? >> alisyn: i don't know. more headlines and more video from eastern afghanistan where another attack has claimed lives of american troop. it happened at a checkpoint. a gun battle broke out between american and afghan troops after some kind of misunderstanding. 2,000 american troops have been killed in afghanistan since the war begin. >> u.s. supreme court preparing to return to the bench. nine justices will likely make decisions on gay marriage, voting rights and affirmative action. spotlight will be on chief justice john roberts. he was deciding vote that upheld president obama's healthcare law talk about a dream come true for potential terrorists. keys
-- they are both 70 sixer sold. you know, you don't always get choice. i think that if romney wins, ruth bader ginsburg will try to hold on for the next four years. if obama wins, kennedy and scalia will try to hold on, but you never know what'll happen. >> can you speculate what was in roberts mind when he famously replied that the job of the justice was just [inaudible] as opposed to change the rules? >> well, that is the most quoted thing he has ever said. 80% of the time, critically about him, look, we all, supreme court justices included, perceive ourselves in certain ways and i don't think john roberts it's up in the morning and says i am a judicial activist and is trying to disrupt the united states. clarence thomas does wake up and say that. [laughter] i don't mean that in a critical way. clarence thomas lily has a very different attitude towards president than any of the other justices. justice story has senate. thomas doesn't really believe in the rule of presidents. he thinks that these decisions are wrong and we ought to overturn the mall. and that is a very different attitude than
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